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Post by piedflycatcher on Dec 7, 2007 11:41:47 GMT
I'm surrounded by Yuffentine haters on all sides except above me, and I'm feeling quite small, helpless and rather scared now... Haha, don't worry, there's room for all kinds of shipping preferences here. We have quite a variety of people - you're not the only Vincent/Yuffie shipper, really. I don't like most slash either, but Vincent/Yuffie ranks higher on my 'ick' scale than a slash pairing like Cloud/Zack. XD Different strokes for different folks and all that.
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Post by Ink on Dec 7, 2007 17:33:24 GMT
Sorry, this's gonna be a rant about Naruto-pairings.
I realized yesterday that I hate yaoi and yuri even more than I thought. That's quite a lot of hate. Why? Well, after checking through the list with Deidara-fics on FF.net, and found him paired with Sasori, Itachi, Hinata, Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Kisame, Hidan, Kakuzu and various other characters and OC's I was ready to stab my eyes with a kitchen knife. Well, someone's eyes anyway. Yuri? Hinata/Sakura. Enough said.
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Post by ladyvaltaya on Dec 8, 2007 8:50:20 GMT
And isn't there a naruto thread for this stuff somewhere? This is the FFVII board....
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Post by fearandloathing on Dec 8, 2007 17:48:31 GMT
We are like a little bit on-topic because we *are* discussing pairings, and yaoi/yuri and all that... Just using Naruto as examples I think one of the reasons there is so much rampant yaoi in Naurto is the lack of girls, most teams are boy-boy-girl, which creates an excess. Plus half the girls are already spoken for.
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Post by Sai on Dec 16, 2007 2:10:40 GMT
You know what another of my favorite pairings is? Reno/Tseng.
I don't even know why, but it just makes me go 'Awww'.
I am also a shameless Aeris/Reno fan.
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Post by ladyvaltaya on Dec 17, 2007 17:07:02 GMT
Tseng/Reno makes me go eeeww... no idea why... Other than that whole clash of personalities thing...
I get the impression that Tseng tolerates Reno (style of dress, attitude, ect) because he is an asset to their team. I can't imagine there being any romance between them. Tseng, in the game's storyline, and Last Order, (not to mention he's not real affable in CC either- and who in their right mind doesn't like Zack??) is much too reserved, straight laced and cold in his approach to his job.
As for the Yuffentine pairing, I dunno. I'm okay with it at times, but then there are other times where I violently can't stand seeing them put together. It depends on the circumstances, events of the story and the tone of the story over all. For me, Vincent- even POST DoC is still a character that belongs mostly in darker fics. Yuffie doesn't really fit that story type- for me anyway. Though, I've seen her portayed quite well quite a few times as the light in his darkness, so to speak.
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Post by Kysic on Dec 17, 2007 18:37:29 GMT
WARNING: Rant may follow.
As long as the author doesn't claim that Yuffitines are canon, I might not mind reading the fanfic, but Vincent is the type of guy that should be alone most of the time unless he's paired with Lucrecia (remember, I only don't mind him being paired with Lucrecia because this pairing is canon).
I rarely have a favorite canon pairing unless there's some spice or something original in it. For canon things like movies, video games, and etc I don't mind the canon pairings too much. When it comes to fanon things like fanfics, however, I rarely like canon pairings because I often think 'why would I want to read something a fan wrote even though something similar like this might happen in a future installment to the series?'. This is why I normally give canon pairings in fanfics two thumbs down. It's just canon pairings normally bore me too much to care if a fan wrote it, and not the creators of the series themselves. Canon pairings usually have things used too much. That's why I like crack pairings a little more or uncommon canon pairings. There's usually more room to create something original or interesting. I rarely like a fanfic about a popular canon pairings, but I'll admit a few fanfics has really caught my attention.
The only canon pairing I like in the FFVII fandom at the moment is VincentxLucrecia, despite me being badly annoyed by Lucrecia. It's just now it'll be kind of difficult to make this pairing work out now that Lucrecia and Vincent are...well...having some issues. Basically, it's a little easier to make this pairings interesting now that there are some challenges.
Normally, pairings like CloudxTifa and CloudxAeris just makes me roll my eyes, no offense to fans of these pairings. It's just in fanfics with these pairings, things are used way too much for me to be interested. I'm a HUGE plot critic, so I'm very hard to please. If the creators were the ones that featured these pairings, I don't mind. If fans do these type of pairings, I normally don't care much usually because this pairing could happen in a future installment to the series; I just don't see any point reading fanfics about it most of the time.
Whew, it's been so long since I ranted. I hope none of this offends anyone. I'm just being honest with what I think about these kind of pairings.
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Post by ladyalexas on Dec 19, 2007 9:43:58 GMT
well i havent read any final fantasy pairings yet but at the moment from what my friend says i would have to say at the moment vincent/yuffie. but i havent read any yet!
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Post by Sai on Dec 20, 2007 0:05:44 GMT
Well then, you need to get reading, ladyalexas! I really sugest that you try all sorts of pairings. Don't hesitate just because it says Yuffie/Vincent or Cloud/Reno. Try everything and anything that sounds interesting. You might just find your OTP by random accident. You can go look on the nominations board for some of the best stories in the fandom. Pick something and get cracking.
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Post by leafonthebreeze on Dec 20, 2007 14:32:50 GMT
Yeah, the nominations list is the best place for VII fanfiction! So go get reading ;D
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Post by Sylla on Jan 1, 2008 16:02:11 GMT
When it comes to fanon things like fanfics, however, I rarely like canon pairings because I often think 'why would I want to read something a fan wrote even though something similar like this might happen in a future installment to the series?'. This is why I normally give canon pairings in fanfics two thumbs down. It's just canon pairings normally bore me too much to care if a fan wrote it, and not the creators of the series themselves. [...] If fans do these type of pairings, I normally don't care much usually because this pairing could happen in a future installment to the series; I just don't see any point reading fanfics about it most of the time. Now, I don't think this is quite fair to those authors that write canon pairings. A lot of authors find ways to make these fics interesting by looking at the pairing from a slightly different perspective, or throwing said canon pair into a different situation that normal, just to see what might happen. Many times, also, canon pairings are written to give the author/readers some sense of closure. For example, an author might write a fic about Cloud and Tifa's life if they got married (as in Family Portrait, by Galaxia Alpha) - or they might write a fic exploring what might have happened between Aeris and Cloud had Aeris not died. Both these pairings are canon, but neither of these two scenarios will likely ever find their way into anything official. Simply to dismiss a fic with a canon pairing out of hand because, Oh, that pairing's been done before is an insult to the author who put all their hard work and effort into writing it; more so if you dismiss it because it's not 'official'. At least, that's what I feel. (Of course, dismissing a fic with a canon pairing because it's horribly written is another matter entirely. =P)
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Post by piedflycatcher on Jan 1, 2008 18:17:05 GMT
I guess it depends on what you're looking for when you read fanfiction. I usually like to see more of what made me like the source material so much, which means that I prefer canon pairings. I like stuff that feels as though it could slot right into the canon universe.
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Post by Kysic on Jan 3, 2008 1:59:48 GMT
I was just being brutally honest about how I feel about most canon pairings. I also forget to mention that I sometimes avoid fanfics with pairings in general. I just don't normally like fanfics that mostly focuses on the pairing rather than the story. If it focused on the friendship between the couple more than the romance then I MIGHT read the fanfic. Another reason I sometimes avoid fanfics with these type of pairings is because most canon pairings are too cliche for my taste, and/or lately there's been too many poorly written romance fanfics. Simply to dismiss a fic with a canon pairing out of hand because, Oh, that pairing's been done before is an insult to the author who put all their hard work and effort into writing it; more so if you dismiss it because it's not 'official'. At least, that's what I feel. (Of course, dismissing a fic with a canon pairing because it's horribly written is another matter entirely. =P) I wouldn't call it "insulting" because what I'm simply doing is not reading a pairing I'm not into, at least not too often. It's like if I didn't like a pairing like RenoxYuffie (I like this pairing. It's only being used as an example.). If I don't like a pairing than I simply don't read it. If I'm just not into it, I don't read it too much, only once in a while. This is the reason some flamers look stupid. The real insulting thing to do to the author would be to read his/her fanfic with a pairing I don't like or just not into, then send a flame like, "The pairing you used in this fanfic sucks. Get a real life loser." THAT'S really insulting. Also, you missed on line I put in the post. I rarely like a fanfic about a popular canon pairing, but I'll admit a few fanfics has really caught my attention. See, there are some occasions where I read fanfics with canon pairings. If you looked at my FF.net profile, I would bet you would find a few fanfics with canon pairings, but I think they're mostly just fanfics with CloudxTifa. Edit: I fixed a few things in this post. Sorry about taking so long to edit. I got booted off the laptop by my mom, and been pretty busy the last few days.
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Post by Sai on Jan 3, 2008 5:00:36 GMT
Personally, I avoid canon like the plague, except for certain pairings (example, I am partial to Tidus and Yuna, which is glaringly canon, as well as Cid and Shera, which is also canon).
I just don't think it tickles my fancy, probably because there is quite a bit of it. I don't want to go through three stories within an hour which all have the same pairing and (sometimes) the same plot idea. It's rare for me to read canon because it just isn't rare.
Now, on strange couplings (Yaoi, Yuri, couples like Rude/Yuffie (which can actually be cute)) they can be harder to find and thus more fun for me to read. I'll dig through dozens of stories and finally feel acomplished that I found something with a good plot that draws me in. Now, I'm not saying all canon is boring, but I just prefer anti-canon. Granted, I'll tell you there is a lot of non-canon bad stories, but it's easy enough to click the back button.
As for flaming, I don't think I've ever done that. In all of the 52 signed reviews I have ever given, not one of them is bad. granted, I did have a (Wtf? care to explain that again, please?), but that was the worst I ever did. No story deserves a flame just for the pairing.
I've noticed lately that I'm gravitating away from my normal catagory (I once was just a romance reader) and am now delving into the gen-fics like Put Your Lights On.
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Post by Sylla on Jan 3, 2008 10:56:04 GMT
I wouldn't call it "insulting" because what I'm simply doing is not reading a pairing I'm not into, at least not too often. [...] This is the reason some flamers look some stupid. The real insulting thing to do to the author would be to read his/her fanfic with a pairing I don't like or just not into, then send a flame like, "The pairing you used in this fanfic sucks. Get a real life loser." THAT'S really insulting. Well, a valid point, I suppose. Not reading a fic 'cause you don't like the pairing is... well, y'know, whatever floats your boat, right? But I wasn't quite saying that; it's dismissing a fic just 'cause it has a canon pairing, never mind if you like it or not, that's insulting. It's a very fine line, but I still feel it's a distinction. I'm not sure quite how to effectively argue my point, but I still have the same view. Hey, it works for Nancy Cartwright.Also, on the topic of flames: I totally agree with you there. It's just lame to read a story with a pairing you don't like and then shoot off a flame just because you didn't like the pairing. It's... I dunno, just ridiculous. (And yes, I'm afraid I did miss the last line of your post. Speedreading and all that. =P)
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