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Post by Sai on Oct 5, 2007 2:42:54 GMT
Alright, I searched this forum for a place to just talk about your favorite pairing (that means anyone), in the Final Fantasy VII catagory, and I came up empty-handed. So, here it is!
(I'm slightly nervous about putting this up, because I'm just weird like that.)
Anyway, I ask you guys to tell your favorite pairing/s and why. Also, maybe you could point out the pairings your dislike/hate and why?
Please don't try to eat one another or flame a specific pairing, whether it be canon or otherwise.
I like to hold the peace.
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Clan Dragoon
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Oct 5, 2007 3:56:41 GMT
Wow there really wasn't one for this? I uses I see a bunch of specific pairings... hmmm... ah well.
favorite pairing? I've never been one for happy endings. I just don't think they're there for the Final Fantasy Seven cast. They come close but they'll always be broken and so I tend to love fics that stay very true to those tendencies. True I read some fluff every once in a while but would i ever write it? No, and if it sounds like I do, the ending will always be tragic. If I HAD to choose...Zack and Aeris. Both personalities are so much fun to deal with and bouncing them off each other is a great way to pass time. Besides, they're both so cute.
Hated pairing? I know I'll regret this later...Tifa and Cloud. Absolutely can't stand this pairing. true I'll give bows to many that can do this incredibly well but I still... it's never going to happen, or at least not the way people keep portraying that it will. Not romance, not ever. I see them as both broken halves trying to smash their edges to fit and it just wont. Besides I just couldn't see them ever working outside sister/brother or best friends. I don't know, their personalities don't mash well for me. That's not saying that I think Aeris would be better. Strong believer that she is meant for Zack and only loved (romantically) for the Zack she saw in him. After all, he didn't awaken to his true self until after she was dead.
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Post by Sai on Oct 5, 2007 5:02:50 GMT
Personally, my favorite pairing is Zack/Cloud. It always was, not because they were friends who were willing to die for one another, but because I always saw raw potential with each other. They were so close, yet so far at the same time. It was real heart-breaking, tear jerking. . . . Plus, the first fan-fiction I ever read was a Zack/Cloud.... That may have something to do with it.
Hated pairing- Yuffentines. I can not stand them, in even the smallest amounts. I can't stand them because I see Vincent as a solitary man, grief-filled and loathing his own life. Kinda emo, but who am I to judge? I see Vincent being alone, minimal interaction with anyone hyper-active, materia fiend, kleptomaniac, insane, sugar high child who does nothing but steal your materia and leave you to die in the middle of godforsaken nowhere um... like Yuffie.
No, I am not still bitter about her having me die the first time I played the game...
Anyway, How in the world could those two mix? I can see how Tifa/Vincent could happen, even Aeris/Vincent before she, y'know, croaked, but Yuffentines? I'd rather have Vincent gay or in a monastery, swearing off all sex rather than Yuffentines.
So yes, there is my opinion.
(Don't kill me.)
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Post by piedflycatcher on Oct 5, 2007 9:48:02 GMT
Fave: Cloud/Tifa. I think I've explained this before but it's the pairing which makes most sense to me in canon. I also like how they both support each other. Cloud really needs Tifa to stabilise him and keep him together, and likewise Tifa needs Cloud to be her hero. They're strong individually, but stronger together and I think that's one of the beautiful things about their relationship - it really is good for both of them.
Least fave: Hard to choose, but of the most popular ones I'd say Vincent/Yuffie. I just don't see how it would work. Fifty something year old, cold, aloof Vincent, who turns into nasty demons when he gets emotional and has an unhealthy obsession with Lucrecia... and the eighteen year old ninja brat Yuffie, who doesn't have a lot of patience and is selfish to boot. Yeah, that's so gonna work.
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Oct 5, 2007 14:57:03 GMT
My favourite pairings? Anyting that is really canon, like Vincent/Lucrecia or Cid/Shera.
My least favourite pairings would be (I'm not going to count the completely absurd ones like Red/Anyone or Sephiroth/Reno) Vincent/Yuffie, Reno/Another Turk or Reno/Rufus. Just can't stand them. I can't really see Reno in any kind of relationship with anyone except the 'one-night-stand' kind of reltionship. And I don't think that any of his friends (or his boss) would want to be in a relationship with the little s'lut. And when it comes to Vincent/Yuffie, it's the age and personality difference. It just wouldn't work! Not to mention Vincent is busy angsting over Lucrecia. Not very fond of Cloud/Zack either, but I haven't got an explanation for that one.
Then we have to ones I really loathe. Examples of these are Kadaj/Cloud, Yazoo/Reno, or Remnant/Remnant (like Kadaj/Yazoo). Those are just... disgusting. Incest is nothing I want to read, or even think, about. When is comes to Kadaj/Cloud, Yazoo/Reno or, God forbid, Sephiroth/Cloud, I just scream bloody murder. They're enemies, not lovers. Just... eww!
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Post by fearandloathing on Oct 5, 2007 15:47:34 GMT
For fav out of VII I'd probably sayyyy Vincent/Lucretia
Because I love Vincent so damn much and him and Lucretia make me cry.
But I also give love to Zack/Aeris (once again, because I love the male character)
Most hated?
I think Yuffietine can work if it's done right, as can most parings...
But for most hated I'd probably throw up Vincent/Cid, because they just wouldn't.
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Post by piratesrox on Oct 5, 2007 19:50:13 GMT
Fave:I like Cloud/Aeris. I love the stuff people come up with for that, but only when they portray Aeris PROPERLY. Aeris WASN'T a wise and sacred angel. She was the last, rather clumsy, Ancient, and was flirty and fun to boot. She flirted with Cloud outrageously, and when I see an Aeris like that, it equals instant points.
Least Fave: Cloud/Zack Cloud/Sephy Cloud/Vincent Cloud and any male character. Cloud has enough women in his life thanks. We dont need him with a guy. ^_^
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Post by Dramaya M. Murasaki on Oct 5, 2007 21:18:21 GMT
Amen to that, Ink. That sums up exactly what I hate about those types pairings. Remnant/Remnant is utter incest, and any relationship between them would only be brotherly. Then, people try to pair up the remnants and Sephiroth with characters like Cloud and Reno, and it's just ridiculous. Do they not even know the definition for the word 'enemy'? It's not as if I hate yaoi, though-- pairings like Zack/Cloud and Reno/Rude could possibly work, since they're at least on friendly terms with each other. Still, I'd probably never read a slash fic. Just not my thing. My favorite pairing in FFVII, however? Definitely Tifa/Cloud. Although I don't really have a preference towards Cloud, Tifa is my favorite female in FFVII, and I squee to see any indications of Tifa/Cloud. Heck, I jumped for joy when Cloud got Tifa as a date in the Gold Saucer. I disagree on anyone saying they're incompatible, because there is so much to prove that they are. Like Pied said, Tifa was Cloud's continual support (especially in AC), but she looks up to him as her hero in return. Besides, wasn't she really the one to help him find himself again? It's one of the reasons I dislike Cloud/Aerith, really. I prefer to see Aerith as more of an incentive for him to redeem himself and help save the planet. Also, if they were lovers, I would see nothing but pain. Sure, she comes back visit to him in visions, yet that's the only time they get to see each other after her death. I think Cloud has had too much suffering in his life for him to be pining after someone in the Lifestream. That's why Tifa is there for him. All of that happens to be why Aerith/Zack is my second favorite pairing, as I think they're plain adorable together (check out the fic I nominated called Breathing). I believe one of the main reasons Zack was killed was so Aerith wouldn't be alone in the afterlife. Besides, Aerith really only liked Cloud because he reminded her of who? Zack, hello. I also literally squealed in delight when I saw Aerith comfort Zack in a Crisis Core trailer. Out of all the pairings in FFVII, I think they're the most probable.
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Oct 5, 2007 22:02:31 GMT
Oh, and yeah... I forgot the pairing that burn in the deepest hell of my mind, the one I never wanna read about even in a summary, and which is so rediculously disgusting my mind goes blank and I just sit there, numb, staring at nothing for quite some time: Sephiroth/Remnant. Hell, I don't even know if that would classify as incest or some kind of masturbation.
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Post by Sai on Oct 5, 2007 22:27:55 GMT
I'm not too fond Of Remnant/anyone, because they were never really real, I think. I always pictured them as just popping out of the ground, covered and blood, with nothing but the hopes to murder and keellll keellll keelllll...
Also, another which I don't like...... I don't want hatemail...... Vincent/Lucretia.... I mean, I've seen varous DoC spoilers, and they all show Lucretia to be a whiny little girl who doesn't understand that she is hurting the people she says she loves.
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Post by Kysic on Oct 5, 2007 23:16:30 GMT
I haven't had much of a chance to explore many pairings I like, but I have to say Vincent/Tifa is my favorite by default even though I prefer him to be alone. I just haven't been able to read about much of the other pairings yet or not enough to decide how much I like them. I'm just pretty reflexable with most pairings. I like Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aeris nearly the same, but I MIGHT like CxA just a tiny more (I'm still deciding). It could be because I'm starting to think CloudxTifa is a little cliche (I don't know if that's the right word for it) after I read some fanfics about it after a while. It's just I hear the "childhood best friends eventually fall in love, get married, and blah, blah blah thing a little too much. I'm not bashing the pairing. It's just in MY opinion, this type of love is a little overused. I've seen all kinds of different stories, so don't take what I say the wrong way. It's just male and female childhood best friends don't always fall in love eventually and/or get married in real life. This type of friendship just doesn't always wrap up male and female childhood best friends' future. I still like to read CloudxTifa once in a while, though. About ZackxAeris, I'm okay with the pairing, but I don't think they had much of a chance to get close. Aeris even says they weren't that serious. I'm just don't think Aeris liked Cloud because of him resembling Zack. I don't want to argue about this pairing or anything because I'm okay with the pairing, and I never played the game. My least favorite would have to be...well...I guess I have to go with VincentxShelke, any yaoi pairing, or Yuffitines. I'm just not into yaoi. Enough said. I doubt Shelke and Vincent could ever be together because she mostly just channeled Lucrecia's memories, so any "signs" of romance between those two aren't real. Yuffitines just don't seem compatiable enough to me. I don't really need to explain it much why this pairing is my least favorite because everyone else pretty much explained it for me. Like rsaioxkreual, I think Lucrecia, Tifa, and maybe even Aeris has a better chance being with Vincent than Yuffie. It doesn't mean I dislike the pairing, it just has a small chance of working out. The only Yuffitine I know that was realistic about the whole thing was Northsky's fanfic The Man Behind the Cloak. www.fanfiction.net/s/3379839/1/The_Man_Behind_the_CloakI don't want to go into details about the fanfic because it would spoil everything. Let's just say if Yuffie ever did have any interest in Vincent, this would most likely happen in my opinion.
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Post by Dramaya M. Murasaki on Oct 6, 2007 18:57:16 GMT
Ha! That actually would classify more as masturbation; technically, Sephiroth would be making love with himself. There wasn't even any interaction between him and his remnants for obvious reasons, and it's the least likely slash pairing ever.
Although I'm probably going to be bombarded for this later, I forgot to mention that I actually like Yuffentines. I do see that there are several factors which could prevent it from working, but some fics I've read make it actually possible (Marilena's Ivory and Sable and Catalina's Sink To The Bottom With You are good examples). There's something I like about love interests with opposite personalities, particularly with Vincent's stoic demeanor and Yuffie's bouncy-ness, as I think it allows for more interesting sexual tension. The way I see it, Yuffie can help Vincent let go of his guilt over Lucerica. In turn, Vincent can teach Yuffie to be more mature.
People obviously think otherwise, but that's the potential I see in the pairing. Just wanted to throw that out there.
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Post by Erissa on Oct 6, 2007 19:10:04 GMT
Hmm does a pairing have to be canon or plausible to be enjoyable?
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Post by Sai on Oct 6, 2007 19:23:51 GMT
I don't think it does have to be canon to be likable.
Heck, one of my favorite stories is a Cloud/Reno, and I see little 'canon' or even plausability in the actual story.
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Post by Dramaya M. Murasaki on Oct 6, 2007 19:38:43 GMT
Canon? Not necessarily. Plausible? Heck yes. If a pairing isn't plausible, chances are I wouldn't even click on the link to that story. However, if someone is reputed to be able to make an implausible pairing plausible, then I might read it, just to see how anyone could possibly make it work.
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