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Post by Mengde on Sept 6, 2008 14:57:25 GMT
What the hell. It's not A, it's Eeeeeey.
Damn British people.
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Post by piratesrox on Sept 6, 2008 15:07:09 GMT
What the hell. It's not A, it's Eeeeeey. Damn British people. ... A. ¬_¬ What's this topic about? Oh yeah, sex scene. I got nothing against sex scenes... I read a really good IMPLIED sex scene if somebody wanted it? I forget. I'll go find the link and then put it in in an edit.
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Post by Pen Against Sword on Sept 7, 2008 20:17:38 GMT
What the hell. It's not A, it's Eeeeeey. Damn British people. ... A. ¬_¬ What's this topic about? Oh yeah, sex scene. I got nothing against sex scenes... I read a really good IMPLIED sex scene if somebody wanted it? I forget. I'll go find the link and then put it in in an edit. Uh, Pirates, what he means is that Fonz is saying "'Eeey," like, short for "hey." Like "hey" without pronouncing the "h." He is not saying the letter "A." That doesn't even make any sense, you silly thing! Also, post that thar link up here. I want to see it.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Sept 24, 2008 10:41:13 GMT
writing sex scenes is very dificult. For them to have any effect at all they have to written well, regardless of whether it is for titilation or drama, which is why probably some of my best writting (technicaly) is probably in lemons and why I don't do it often.
You can write badly and still be funny, but you can't write badly and be dramatic.
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Clan Dragoon
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 23, 2009 4:49:51 GMT
Okay gang - I'm actually going to put this thread to use (new concept!!!) and ask for specific help on a sex scene for my current fanfiction.
You've all shown displeasure for vulgar language during sexual interactions, but I have to beg the question that what if the intention of the sex scene is present the ideas of: vulgar, grotesque, graphics, violent and disgusting?
But still not in a rape sense. Thus, my challenge which i need the most dire of help, because if I don't get the point across that those are the ideals i need for a reason of juxtaposing the actual character - I come off as another disturbing lemon.
Which is what I'm trying to avoid.
And now, some help on being tastefully trashy?
My idea was that I would point violence in the main body actions, but focus not so much on the actual sexual experience as coming off so disgusting (such as involving juices that do not belong places) but more on the relationship, and the characters reflections on each other.
And that's all I really have in what is now, an epic failure of writing.
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Post by Sai on Feb 23, 2009 5:45:41 GMT
Hrm. Explain more so that we can get a better grasp on things (characters, their personalities ifwe don't know them, the kinks being used, what kind of words that you plan on using, etc.)
I use "co*k" in my fan fiction. There are only so many words that you can use for a peen, and the actual word is so...clinical. I can't understand the appeal of that.
Granted, I've got double the men, so it gets doubly boring.
But yes, explain away, Clan.
I'l ltry to help.
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 23, 2009 6:08:23 GMT
Thank you Sai,
The characters: Cloud/Tifa
The over-all tone of the story? Very dark, depressing, violent. But that's the story as a whole -and I really want to set for that in the very opening chapter, which happens to be the sex scene.
In context speaking - the sex scene is a dream that Tifa is having, because immediately following such a graphic chapter, she wakes up with no memory who in the world Cloud even is - and continues to live out her life in the (exaggerated) poverty of Midgar. It's told 3rd person, but the dream is first person from Cloud's POV.
Leaves ambiguity.
Anyway, the style (short intro featured below):
I was planning on using words like: trapped, captured, pinned, restrained, shoved, constrained, ect...
But those are all involving physical movements - and I feel that in order to move it to the next level past a lemon, I need to introduce the other senses - but how would I go about creating smell and taste into something grotesque? I rely far too heavily on visual aid in the scene.
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Post by Hope on Feb 23, 2009 12:30:14 GMT
*GROSSNESS ALERT. LOOK AWAY NOW*
Well, there's that very distinctive smell of sex. In an unpleasant encounter I could imagine it being distasteful, putrid even as it's a reminder of the base-ness of the whole thing.
The taste thing I find a little tricky. In this scene it sounds like Cloud is the initiator and kind of animalistic in his behaviour (am I understanding that right?) so maybe he's licking her, biting her - in which case I think she'd be hot and salty from the sweat. If I'm right about the animalistic thing I'd probably go with animal-like adjectives to describe the sounds as well - grunts, howls, screams... that sort of thing.
That said, I've never written a sex scene, only beta-d for them (because Moira's writing gets suprisingly dirty) so it may be that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Post by Moira Rose on Feb 23, 2009 13:10:13 GMT
That said, I've never written a sex scene, only beta-d for them (because Moira's writing gets suprisingly dirty) so it may be that I have no idea what I'm talking about. I object strongly to that remark. Thank you very much. -.- I'm watching you Hope... (be heartened, I did not read much of the rest of this thread. Thank gawd.)
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Post by T. Costa on Feb 23, 2009 19:23:12 GMT
*GROSSNESS ALERT. LOOK AWAY NOW* Well, there's that very distinctive smell of sex. In an unpleasant encounter I could imagine it being distasteful, putrid even as it's a reminder of the base-ness of the whole thing. The taste thing I find a little tricky. In this scene it sounds like Cloud is the initiator and kind of animalistic in his behaviour (am I understanding that right?) so maybe he's licking her, biting her - in which case I think she'd be hot and salty from the sweat. If I'm right about the animalistic thing I'd probably go with animal-like adjectives to describe the sounds as well - grunts, howls, screams... that sort of thing. I'm going to object here. The smell of sex isn't base and unpleasant, although it is very sweaty work. It's a sort of...tangy, metallic scent. You can tell when someone has been having sex versus when someone has been working out. I don't find it unpleasant, although a little musky. For politeness' sake I generally air out a room afterward, but I don't dislike the smell. One thing that has a distinct smell is the smell of ejaculate. THAT I find a little bit unpleasant, but it's very distinct and anyone who's had sex knows exactly what I'm talking about (or any guys wandering around). Taste and smell go hand-in-hand. You can taste when someone has been having sex, too. During the act, you can taste the sweat on someone's skin, and their hormones go into overdrive so their saliva tastes different, too. If it's violent sex, there's possibly the taste of tears to work into the equation. Not to mention that oral sex is pretty much all about taste.
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 23, 2009 20:12:05 GMT
Hmmmm - you may be onto something there T.Costa (as well as your assist, Hope).
Oral sex. For some reason I can't really recall coming across a sex scene that was really focused (if at all included) oral out side two lines. But maybe I don't read around into sex much?
That just strikes me as an idea to really put the reader off, being written in a means that you feel that your being forced to look at it.
Animalistic isn't quite what I was going for, BUT - I'd never thought of taking that angle.
Thank you gang, I have some interesting ideas to say the least.
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Post by T. Costa on Feb 23, 2009 21:44:12 GMT
I helped! Yay!
I actually had no idea about how to help you out, but I had to interject my opinions regarding the smell and taste of sex. Sex in generally as pretty all-encompassing, so it's best, IMO, to include as many senses as one can without overwhelming the reader or coming off as a purple-prose writer.
Personally, in regards to writing sex scenes, you're going about it the right way - ask people. I think I may have stated it here before, but I've actually sat down with a pen and paper and quizzed my husband about sex from the male perspective. I've gotten numerous comments about how well I get inside the male psyche, so I'm going to say that's probably been a success.
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Post by Hope on Feb 23, 2009 21:53:14 GMT
Oh I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to say I dislike the smell of sex. In fact I like it, it's a big turn on. I only meant to say that if the sex was demeaning, which I thought that you were going for, (although now I think I probably misinterpreted your intentions) that the smell might be a harsh physical reminder of the act, and unpleasant for that reason.
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Post by T. Costa on Feb 23, 2009 23:01:50 GMT
Gotcha! Sorry about the misinterpretation. XD
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 24, 2009 0:33:52 GMT
By and By, what did you find out about the male psyche during sex T.Costa?
It could prove me very useful.
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