Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 16, 2009 16:22:36 GMT
Heheh, and I love him for it! ;D Still though, Élfe's AVALANCHE had their fair share of civillian deaths - wasn't it partly their fault Corel got razed?
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 16, 2009 18:09:38 GMT
Fangirls... I'm surrounded by Rufus fangirls.
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Clan Dragoon
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 16, 2009 23:03:26 GMT
And can't it be agreed that Elfe had a much more badass group then Barret? Even if her group was backstabbing her in cases - all Barret had was Biggs, Wedge and Jessie.
And of course Tifa and Cloud.
Elfe had Hojo-2, Sears, The Raven AND Rufus.
WIN.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 16, 2009 23:28:07 GMT
Epic, epic win! Her group managed to cause havoc inside Shinra, even if that was half of the Turks breaking away and Rufus getting himself put under house arrest in Junon until FFVII.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 17, 2009 0:42:02 GMT
playable characters automatically outrank anyone else.
Its a rule. Its why Auron had to be dead/die
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 17, 2009 0:45:33 GMT
Never!!! Zack wasn't a playable character in FFVII, and he, imo, outranked Cloud. So much so as to get his own personal installement in the compilation. So that entails that Élfe's AVALANCHE outrank Barret's little quartet.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 17, 2009 1:11:11 GMT
I can see I'm fighting a loosing battle. But Rufus still sucks. And always will.
I just don't see any appeal in him, and don't say its because I'm a man, I make a few exceptions to my heterosexuality for fictional characters of which there is no chance of coming to bite me in the rear (...wait, that came out wrong) and I just don't get it.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 17, 2009 1:15:12 GMT
Rufus is teh smex because he manages to dupe his father in BC, and take the helm in VII ... then gets almost killed, and comes back. Oh, and also he throws himself off the side of a building in AC; only Rufus would do that without a second thought, knowing the Turks would save him. He's arrogant and repentant ... and - "A good son would have known..." THE IRONY IS EPIC WIN!!!
But I digress ... I'm glad you have acknowledged defeat in the AVALANCHE side of things. (I kid, I kid.) ;D
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 17, 2009 10:16:58 GMT
The SHM won't exactly the smartest people around though. He took the helm of Shinra by inheritance, his plan in BC having obviously failed when Hojo-2 took command. He tried to have Barret and Tifa executed which Reeve stopped. Basically apart from AC everything he did ended in one big pile of FAIL.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 17, 2009 12:20:29 GMT
The plan failed because Rufus got found out and held ransom by Veld, who used him as leverage to blackmail his way back into the Turks. And what do the three remnants have to do with anything?
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 17, 2009 12:37:33 GMT
they're stupid. Its not exactly easy to fool them.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 17, 2009 14:09:45 GMT
N'yah, I'll give you that; I mean the head was on his lap the WHOLE movie ... duh!
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 17, 2009 17:25:28 GMT
well that's what you get for being throwaway villains. But that negates Rufus' only succsess, when pitted against anyone competent he fails.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 17, 2009 18:20:24 GMT
But he's still alluringly smexy whilst doing so.
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Post by Renolvr on Feb 18, 2009 0:59:23 GMT
Question: if the three twerps were capable of poisoning little kids with their will/will of Jenova, along with merging with Jenova's cells - would they not have been capable of sensing them while they were mere inches away at times?
Just a random thought there.
I have to say I back Élfe's AVALANCHE better - mainly due to living in the same house as Kas, and because of their military power compared to Barret's. They had more people, more resources and more structure than the more recent incarnation of AVALANCHE - and for that alone I favour them.
I also like Rufus for his double crossing and slyness - also because he loves himself too I guess.
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