Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Jan 25, 2009 0:35:50 GMT
Z summon was called Zirconiade, and it was implanted in Élfe's hand, which Fuhito attempted to summon in all his Hojo-like glory. ;D
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Clan Dragoon
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Jan 25, 2009 0:40:24 GMT
Ah yes, that's the name.
I knew it sounded like a vaginal disease...
Have to love Square and their naming abilities.
Thank you.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Jan 25, 2009 0:47:04 GMT
one thing. Elfe and the Head Turk don't die. Tseng reports that they died but lied in order to save them.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Jan 25, 2009 11:41:45 GMT
Yup - Veld escapes with Élfe, sans Fujito who died during the summon and Sears who sacrificed himself to save Élfe, and Tseng reports to the head-hunches that he's killed them; mission complete. Bes the question of what kind of trouble Tseng would ever get into if they ever were to reappear in the compilation.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Jan 27, 2009 16:41:19 GMT
He wouldn't be in too much trouble now. Rufus was funding AVALANCHE to begin with, so as much as Rufus gets into.
edit: then again... in an AU...
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Jan 27, 2009 19:03:19 GMT
Yeah true, but I would like to see them coming back into the compilation again; just to show Barret what the real AVALANCHE were like, lol! ;D
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Post by t3hmaniac on Jan 27, 2009 20:06:20 GMT
well seeing as how Barret's group was more succsessful and how Elfe became dissalusioned with the group
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Jan 27, 2009 20:08:17 GMT
Where did she become disillusioned?
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Post by t3hmaniac on Jan 27, 2009 21:27:43 GMT
towards the end, where Hojo-2 (as I like to call him) turned AVALANCHE into mainly Zombies and RAVENS
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Jan 27, 2009 21:30:49 GMT
She was incapacitated then because of Zirconiade, and Sears had left AVALANCHE to join the Turks (Veld and his gang) and help in finding the four support Materia to draw Zirconiade from Élfe.
Btw; Hojo-2 made me crack up, from now on, I'm gonna call Fuhito that! ;D
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Post by t3hmaniac on Jan 27, 2009 22:34:02 GMT
anyway... the point is she'd probably be satisfied with what Barret's group did. She may want to finish the job (Kill Rufus) but you have to admit, Barret's group took out 3 executives (Scarlet, Heidgerr and Hojo although he had pretty much deserted), had one working with them and the remaining one was Palmer who is either very good at pretending to be stupid and overlooked to stay under the radar as it were, to lazy to be given work, to much hassle to remove.
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Clan Dragoon
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Post by Clan Dragoon on Feb 16, 2009 0:11:54 GMT
But was that really Barret's group?
True the gang went under the title of Avalanche, but i don't really consider them that - it just felt like part of ShinRa aspect of the game, giving the enemy a name. It was more of Cloud's screw up adventure that took out everything.
Barret's Avalanche was really only responsible for blowing up two reactors? One and Five? It's blurry - but from the AC Case of Tifa, they even managed to screw that up - the explosion of the first reactor over produced and killed a lot of innocents.
So in a sense, I think Elfe's version was more successful - especially because Avalanche had such larger numbers before Barret gathered the pieces. To me he feels like a fraud claiming to be Avalanche at all - riding on their coat tails.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 16, 2009 11:55:24 GMT
I said that earlier, they gave them the old terrorist group's name as a way of scapegoating them, however Barret managed to turn it into a small scale revival and took out 1/4th of the power for Midgar, infiltrate a high security millitary base with ease, and generally continued to be as much of a thorn in the side as the origional AVALANCHE was
And if your counting civilian casualties as failures, the origional group wasn't exactly above that either. It was thier plans for the no.1 reactor so I feel that the deaths were intentional on thier part but not on Barret's. The no.5 reactor managed to go up without that much collaterol damage.
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Kisara Strife
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Post by Kisara Strife on Feb 16, 2009 12:59:02 GMT
I consider Élfe's goup as more successful - it was a much more organised group, with larger plans thant Barret's tiny little gang. Also, Élfe and her guys seemed to cause a lot more trouble for Shinra, and get their point across.
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Post by t3hmaniac on Feb 16, 2009 16:12:45 GMT
Its a bit unfair to just dismiss Barret's group though, for only having a small group they caused a sufficient amount of damage. Élfe had an army and half of Shinra's funds at her disposal.
Rufus proves once more to be a backstabbing douche.
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