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Post by piedflycatcher on Jun 17, 2008 19:06:06 GMT
Some of you have probably been wondering if Genesis Awards is going to continue and start a fresh round of awards. The answer to that is up to you. I am willing to run the awards for another year, but I would like to know what you all think of the idea. Please post any opinions, suggestions, whatever.
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Post by Sai on Jun 17, 2008 19:32:54 GMT
Another one! Seriously, it would just be sad if you guys stopped doing this. It's a lot of work, yes, but with the first year done, you guys can make improvements to things that you hadn't thought of before. I even think that you'd have a better turn out with the second year! And, not to mention, you'd have a lot more people in the FFVII community knowing what we are.
And I want to become a Judge! Seriously, it sounds like so much fun!
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Post by mintbanana on Jun 17, 2008 19:45:22 GMT
Yeah! It's a great chance to read some of the best works in the fandom!
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Post by leafonthebreeze on Jun 17, 2008 20:39:40 GMT
Yeah carry on! I'd try and be a judge too this time maybe! Although I havn't actually written anything in months and months and months so I might not qualify or something
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Post by Pen Against Sword on Jun 17, 2008 21:28:36 GMT
Pied, I think that would be freaking awesome, and I really am dying to be a judge if you choose to do it again. It seems like a fun job.
*crosses fingers*
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Post by NRGburst on Jun 17, 2008 22:40:05 GMT
I think it would be great. I'm wondering a little about the qualifying period of time, though. I mean, three whole years of fics to choose from for the last awards. If GA is only up for another year, with the amount of time that judging takes, nominations will be only for about 6 months worth?
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Post by Sai on Jun 17, 2008 22:56:59 GMT
I've been thinking about that, too. I was thinking that Pied might do something like push the year to 2005.
Also, to be fair, maybe she'll allow stories to be renominated, as long as they hadn't won. (This would mean re-reading some fics, but with a new set of stories and judges, it doesn't sound so bad). There have been a lot of new stories written in the past six monthes alone-- I've seen dozens of really good ones pop up.
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Post by unwinding fantasy on Jun 18, 2008 0:13:37 GMT
I reckon you can make it an annual business but naturally, stories that have already won shouldn't be allowed to be nominated again. XD
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Post by T. Costa on Jun 18, 2008 1:26:50 GMT
I feel that the process needs a bit of a refinement. Since you now have your experiences from this rewards session under your belt, I feel that a refinement of the procedures would be infinitely possible, and I definitely believe that the Genesis Awards should continue.
I would also be willing to be a judge.
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Post by Sylla on Jun 18, 2008 18:14:22 GMT
Absolutely. I think it'd be a crying shame to stop the Awards here; there's so many fics to be found and awarded! I'm hesitant to say it should be for an FF other than VII because VII again would be just fine with me, too - but may I diffidently suggest Final Fantasy X? It's such a great FF, and there's a whole host of awesome stories written for it that I'm almost bouncing with eagerness to be able to nominate them! =P However, I'm not sure I'd be able to be a judge again (partly because after the troubles I had this year with the clash between schoolwork and judging, my parents'd kill me if they found out I volunteered again, and partly because the workload itself next year is likely to be prohibitive). Also, a cap on the number of fics that can be nominated for each category has to be limited (say 10 or so?) and - just a thought, here - I think it might be a good idea to put the quality bar even higher for fics elegible for nomination - partly because of the potential cap, and partly because we had a couple of doozies in the nomination lists. I won't say which ones they were. Edit: As for fics that already won... how 'bout just making them ineligible for the same category? For example, Mercenaries couldn't be nominated in the 'Crossover' genre again - but if Pied completed it somewhere in the span of time between this Awards and the next, it'd be elegible for nomination in the 'Chaptered Complete' category.
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Post by piedflycatcher on Jun 18, 2008 19:29:31 GMT
Well, the general feeling at the moment seems to be very enthusiastic about continuing the awards. So I think I will be running it and I'm glad to hear that so many people want to be judges. Our biggest problem in the first awards was not having enough judges. I'd try and be a judge too this time maybe! Although I havn't actually written anything in months and months and months so I might not qualify or something Don't worry about that, it isn't what you've written which counts when it comes to being a judge. If GA is only up for another year, with the amount of time that judging takes, nominations will be only for about 6 months worth? Well, if we were to start it soon, then I think I would allow fics which were published on 1st January 2007 or later to be nominated. That way there are a greater variety of fics to choose from and it also means that there's the chance to nominate fics which went unnoticed the last time around. I feel that the process needs a bit of a refinement. Anything in particular you think needs refinement? I'm hesitant to say it should be for an FF other than VII because VII again would be just fine with me, too - but may I diffidently suggest Final Fantasy X? It's such a great FF, and there's a whole host of awesome stories written for it that I'm almost bouncing with eagerness to be able to nominate them! =P Well, at the moment it looks as though people want FFVII again. Much as I would like to cover more than one FF at once, I don't think we have the resources to do that. There is always the possibility that we could run two sets of awards in sequence - that is, after the nominations for FFVII have closed, we open nominations for another FF while the judges are working on the FFVII nominations. But this would either require a lot more work for the judges, or two separate sets of judges and there probably won't be enough. We have another thread for this. *shoos into the judging forum* Probably should have posted this on the judging forum, but I agree. Putting a limit on the number of nominations is one of the changes I've been thinking about making. My inclination right now is not to allow stories to be re-nominated. Possibly, maybe, we could allow fics which were nominated for WiP and have since been completed to be nominated in the Chapter Complete category. Otherwise my feeling is that these fics have had their chance and we ought to be looking for new fics to award.
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Post by Sai on Jun 18, 2008 20:01:57 GMT
Hmm. Well, Pied, when do you believe that this will begin? You seem to want to do it, so will judging/nominations begin soon? And are the awards going to take the same amount of time, or are you going to try to get everything to be sped up?
As for the other FF's, what about if you had one catagory that was just devoted to the other FF? Like, just a general one, instead of being split into 'Best WiP for FFX' you could just have everything go under 'best FFX fic'? It would be a small catagory, no bigger than the others.
I already have an itching to nominate this awesome story I just read. It makes me happy.
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Post by piedflycatcher on Jun 18, 2008 20:19:47 GMT
Hmm. Well, Pied, when do you believe that this will begin? You seem to want to do it, so will judging/nominations begin soon? And are the awards going to take the same amount of time, or are you going to try to get everything to be sped up? There are still a few things to sort out, so I can't really commit myself to a date at this very moment. XD The awards will probably take a similar amount of time, or hopefully a bit shorter if we can be more efficient.
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Post by T. Costa on Jun 19, 2008 5:13:40 GMT
Pied, you asked if there was anything in particular I felt needed refinement. I would have answered before, but sleep intervened. My first thoughts are that it took like...a year? Or more? For the awards to be held and I feel that means that the process ought to be refined a bit. I don't necessarily believe there ought to be a limit on nominations because we could lose out on a lot of good fics that people discover in their random searches of the Internets...but maybe some preliminary judges who are good at determining if it fits the qualifications better? Or maybe stricter qualifications? Some of the nominated fics were amazing, and some were really not that good at all (technically speaking, that is). We have a lot more members now, I believe, than you did when you first started...surely some of them would be willing to volunteer for a duty like that. People, incidentally, who can READ really fast. I know that there were certain fics here that were like 100 chapters long, so clearly this is kind of a necessity (not that none of the judges could read really fast - I'm pretty certain they all could). Because I wasn't privy to a lot of the stuff that happened when it comes to judging, I can't make a really in-depth assessment, but it seemed really long for an awards system to run. I feel that if we all just sorta looked at the process, made some things more efficient and cut out the stuff that dragged things down, we'd be golden. Clearly we don't want to cut out the stuff that's important or else this will be the Grammies and Eminem will win something he doesn't deserve. >.<
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Post by ladyvaltaya on Jun 19, 2008 8:23:07 GMT
You know me, Pied, I'm always up for some more Cloud Fic Worship...
Costa that is a great idea, having volunteers read the nominated fics.
And, yeah, it wouldn't hurt to look back over our judging criteria now that more people are interested in judging net years awards some fresh ideas could be just what we need to refine the process.
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