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Post by Sai on Jun 18, 2008 19:04:45 GMT
Er, just one question, not to be rude or anything... how does one who is dead die again? If you're in the far plane, aren't you in the equivalent to heaven?
Or is this 'death' just means that their souls disappear and can be never found?
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Post by Sylla on Jun 18, 2008 19:18:17 GMT
Heheh, I was going to ask that as well but totally fogot. Oops. XD
Anyhow... how about this? Their souls disappear from the Farplane and can't be found, but the Farplane residents (how politically correct) call it 'dying' because the result is basically the same - they're not there any more. That way Auron and Co. could eventually find their way to some sort of 'meta-Farplane' where the souls of those people have gone and where the bad guy resides, and rescue the redead people by killing the bad guy so their souls go back to the Farplane in peace.
Here's a thought. If the Farplane is like paradise and all colorful and light, how about the 'meta-Farplane' being a cold, dark place, like Hell in Scandinavian (or was it Norse?) mythology. That'd be pretty cool.
Um, that's just the first thing I thought of though.
Hey, I'm really spouting ideas today.
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Post by fearandloathing on Jun 18, 2008 19:30:18 GMT
Oooh can I play alternative ideas as well? What about, if you want something creepy, they don't *disappear* exactly, but they get all screwed up and become like blanks or broken souls or something, so they still exist, but it's in either:- A, all broken up bits of the person fractured and lost and I'm thinking of glass B, still there, but there's like nothing underneath the surface and they're just black. C, reverse B, and you get no body but the 'soul's' still around and is like the farplane equivalent of a ghost *supernatural ftw!*
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Post by NRGburst on Jun 18, 2008 21:33:44 GMT
Thanks SaI. I'm going for an environmental slant actually. Mako is no longer used, oil is hard to find and also an exhaustible resource...see where this is going? Oh, and Pen, I'd already written a pirate related scene when you posted, so I just had to laugh. Great minds and all. I'm tempted to send it off to you just to hear your reaction.
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Post by Pen Against Sword on Jun 18, 2008 22:35:46 GMT
Ahhhh, so many good suggestions.
Although, in particular, I REALLY like that meta-farplane idea.
But anyway, for Sai, I was thinking the reason they're so concerned about this is that nobody knows where a soul that is killed goes. I mean, in Spira, it was like, "Oh, hey, when we die we go to the Farplane and if we're really dissatisfied, we can just come back as unsent, y'know?" But now, they have no idea where people go when they "die" (and by that I mean they are killed in a gruesome way and then randomly disappear into who knows where) in the afterlife, so basically, they want to stop the madness.
Also, I was thinking if I use the meta-farplane idea, I could actually have it be Rikku's mother that gets killed and sends everyone out on The Mission.
Decisions, decisions. I'm sure that when I get really close to finishing The Need to Know, I'll start playing Final Fantasy X again to get in the spirit of it, and then I'll write out a chapter by chapter synopsis with Mengde's help. He always helps me beat plotholes out of my ideas.
But now I'm thinking of what fear said about broken up like bits of glass...
That could serve for a good, hearty helping angst!
Btw, NRG, that sounds like it's made of major win, and now I'm interested in reading it.
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Post by fearandloathing on Jun 18, 2008 22:39:57 GMT
Angst? Angst?Well I just LOVE ANGST Best. Thing. Ever. Also, Rikku's mom would be awesome.
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Post by La Editor on Jun 18, 2008 22:54:15 GMT
Also, Rikku's mom would be awesome. OMGRIKKUSMOM. That would just be ftw. YOU SHOULD ALSO ADD IN A HEALTHY DOSAGE OF SEYMOUR x RIKKU. ...What? (Oh, fine, I admit it. Writing crack made me sortofreallylikethatpairingomgdontkillme.) Ummm, umm, yay for Aurikku and dying! Wait. I'd very much like to see Rikku and her mother's reunion, however. As well as how she and Jecht will mix - something tells me that has 'WARNING! EXPLOSIVE ZONE' written aaaall over it. Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
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Post by Pen Against Sword on Jun 18, 2008 22:56:24 GMT
About four months ago, I wrote six pages of the first chapter, and it involves Rikku being introduced to Jecht.
It's massive win.
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Post by fearandloathing on Jun 18, 2008 23:32:38 GMT
What would Rikku's mom be like though? I mean there's so much you could do with her See, on the one hand a really out and out 'let's talk about sex and don't give me that look Rikku I was a teenager once and you're all just big explosive balls of pheromones so don't be afraid to get your leg over on [Auron ] but make sure you practise safe sex *hands to Rikku*.' Rikku - Mom, this is a pair of furry handcuffs. R's Mom - love you sweetie But then again, she could be a mad controlling uptight-ish type, or... (hands over tag to more competant writers )
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Post by Sai on Jun 18, 2008 23:55:16 GMT
Haha, that's be funny.
Edit: messed up and put my post in the wrong place. La de do.
Anyway, handcuffs? I would have expected when you said protectino that handcuffs wouldn't be it. Unless, of course, they're protecting Rikku from getting dominated.
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Post by fearandloathing on Jun 19, 2008 10:32:44 GMT
That was me being silly that Rikku's mom is a total flake Whaddya think, Sai?
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Post by Sylla on Jun 19, 2008 11:58:07 GMT
YOU SHOULD ALSO ADD IN A HEALTHY DOSAGE OF SEYMOUR x RIKKU. You, you did this to me! *shakes fist* Seriously, after reading 'God's Wheel' the only thing I could think when you said "healthy dosage of SeymourxRikku" was Oh, yes please. *headdesk* Aurikku, Sylla, think of the Aurikku!Anyhow - much as I like the idea of Rikku's mom being a total flake (well, she had to get her bouncy personality from somewhere, didn't she?) I rather think that, given how close-knit a society the Al Bhed are, warm-and-loving-reunion might be better. (What, us hijacking your fic? Never!) Oh, and if you want lots of awesome (platonic) Jecht-and-Rikku interaction, check out 'Memento Vivere' by Enkida. It is absolutely amazing. ;D
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Post by T. Costa on Jun 19, 2008 12:51:45 GMT
Oh, and if you want lots of awesome (platonic) Jecht-and-Rikku interaction, check out Memento Vivere by Enkida. It is absolutely amazing. ;D I was just talking about this fic the other day - it's one of my favorites, I REALLY want Enkida to update. D:
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Post by Sylla on Jun 19, 2008 13:02:28 GMT
Oh gosh, I know. That was, like, one of the first fics that got me seriously into Aurikku. It's so wonderfully awesomely fantastic. =P
... I shal post up details of the FFX-related fic I've mentioned multiple times (but never fully explained) later, once I've got a couple more details sorted out, because I'd kinda like feedback on a couple points. Of course, if anyone's interested.
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Post by fearandloathing on Jun 19, 2008 15:42:51 GMT
Absolutely! For that matter I think I'll offer up my current project for suggestion/pointers/etcetera, because one of my reviewers keeps guessing plot-links before I plan to make them clear and made the love rival seem completely useless, and it's making me paranoid :S So here's the dope, it doesn't hugely matter if you don't know the fandom because I trust you all as kickass writers and you can help whatever the fandom, this is the story I mentioned earlier and features characters Natsume and Mikan becoming bonded by the equivalent of her temporarily stealing his power/soul. This happens in the first chapter, and the rest of that chap and the next are spent in hospital, with the 3rd (recently posted) being them arriving back at school. This 'link' thing has done things like mix up some of their memories, so Mikan dreams about things from Natsume's past (and as he has a pretty nasty one she cries in her sleep a lot), they have difficulty sleeping when they are seperated and when one has any kind of intimate interaction with someone else the other gets sick. I was also considering having a situation where normally stupid Mikan does well in a test because of the link with very smart Natsume, but as I mentioned earlier anxious reviewer already guessed the dream-link and I'm feeling worried about being transparent :S As for the rest, the school authorities are kinda oppressive and controlling/sinister, so I was going to have some kind of interferance from them, but I haven't thought how yet Finally Natsume has been casually seeing an OC, who's at the moment an outwardly nice if slightly eccentric (which I might develop to a bit of a two-faces neurosis) but is pretty-without-having-much-else-interesting-about-her, and so Natsume sometimes forgets about her when he's busy. That's the basic low-down, in the next chapter I plan to have the school being a bit sinister and Mikan feeling ill/being sick (undecided) out with her friends while Natsume takes OC-girl on a date. Any kind of suggstions or ideas about things I could do or ways to make sure I'm not just captain obvious and phail would be hugely apreciated, ta?
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