Ink
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Post by Ink on Sept 15, 2007 20:00:41 GMT
Well... if he knew about them now, he would not really need Balthier, would he? Say that Sephy or Mom tells him and it all hits him in the face and he suddenly knows everything? Or he just suddenly knows?
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Post by Sylla on Sept 15, 2007 20:11:48 GMT
He's not my character, but for what it's worth I think he should know but just not spill the beans (until the designated moment). Either that or Sephiroth finds out about him and reveals this later on, when they all have to band together to beat B. After they find out why it is he went nuts, Sephiroth could casually suggest that, y'know, since Treyia's the son of little miss villainess, he probably has the same powersas her.
Also, he could not like his mother because of her apathy towards him. All she cares about is her own little reality, at the cost of all the others. And after the good guys finds out about his mom (and what she's done) he's forced to explain (in an effort to save his own skin) all about her and how the only way to get their realities back is to kill her. Then (also to save himself) he grudgingly consents to help them get their friends back.
But after a while the villainess comes and is all like "Oh, my son, you helped these poor fools wreck havoc on my beautiful reality. Now I'll have to kill you and them too." Then there could be the whole final fight with the boss and whatever characters we've got, and maybe she succeeds in killing Treyia (who attempts to cancel out her powers but is overwhelmed). Thus his attempts to save his own skin backfire on him, and he's saved having to become a hero.
But, y'know, just a thought.
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Sept 15, 2007 20:19:32 GMT
I think it all depends on how long time we want this to take. The whole Sephy-explains-to-him bit will probably take ages. 'Cause then Mom (that was even better than Miss Antagonist) has to tell him, he has to find the group, he has to explain to Treyia who'll probably have hard time believing him... and everything that comes in between.
Buuut, I guess that's about what will happen anyway, even if he does know from the beginning.
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Post by Sylla on Sept 15, 2007 20:22:18 GMT
That's what scene jumps are for, dear.^^ Did you notice I had Sephiroth in the flower field and then suddenly he's at Miss. Antagonist's palace gates? I'mm probably have him hear her explanation and storm out, furious- then, OMG, he's suddenly in Zanarkand.
Yeah.
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Sept 15, 2007 20:33:15 GMT
Scene jumps or not, it will still take a long time if we don't want a rushed, crappy excuse of a good story.
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Post by leafonthebreeze on Sept 15, 2007 20:36:35 GMT
Oh Sylla... You know me and Fear have this idea that Balthier shoots Penelo... well I was thinking she could fall of the edge of a platform, and Vaan could jump after her, and they could end up with Treyias mum. She could keep Penelo hostage (and badly injured) in exchange for Vaan working for her in some way? How is up to you. Originally this was gonna be with Sephiroth but if he's a good guy I guess that wouldn't work. If evil!mum is a go it a lone kinda girl then I'll scrap that idea, just wondered what you thought.
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Post by fearandloathing on Sept 15, 2007 20:36:48 GMT
Nice, like heading from the Lifa tree HEY LOOK WE'RE BACK AT THE FLOWER FIELD!
I like the idea of him not knowing anything then going 'WHAM', then not telling, like, he sees something and goes 'pswish' and remembers, but stays quiet until he needs to save his own skin.
You know Treyia is totally my little buddy? I so <3 him XD
Oh and were are B and Treyia at the moment? Are we going to get anywhere? And anyone got ideas for the Fran-losing it-scene?
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Post by Captain Wee on Sept 16, 2007 3:07:20 GMT
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Post by Sylla on Sept 16, 2007 7:53:29 GMT
Leaf: Um, I don't really think miss Villainess would be the type to hold Penelo hostage- she really doesn't give a damn about anyone, even her own son.
But! If Penelo fals off the edge of the platform, you could have her fall outside the palace-thing's gates. Then Sephiroth could find her and she tags along or something, or he, as a token gesture towards his 'good guy' role (I'm really deluding myself here, aren't I?) heals her, and then drags her along to question her about her world. And this would totally lead to confusion later. (Vaan: "Penelo, why are you with the bad guy? I thought we were friends!" Penelo: "Well excuuuse me, Vaan, I dodn't know he was evil! Seph: When will you guys get it into your heads that I'm NOT EVIL RIGHT NOW?!")
Ahahah.
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Sept 16, 2007 9:24:11 GMT
Okay, I'll do like this: Treyia knows, or suspects, what is going on with the world and Mom. He dont want to say anything, though, as hes afraid of the outcome (hey, he is her son after all, and how would the others like THAT?) So he keeps quiet until, for example, Sephiroth says something like "Hey, shouldn't the boy be able to fix it?" or Balthier tries to kill him when he's mad, and Treyia says "Okay okay, if you don't kill me I can bring her back."
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Post by fearandloathing on Sept 16, 2007 10:35:36 GMT
XD threatining. Sounds good to me, Ink. I think Sephy should say something first, because even when he's mad I don't think B would try to kill Treyia unless he knew he could bring people back and was being petty about it - he'll have a sort've twisted protection complex about keeping Treyia alive. Sylla = Ooo I like that Sephy/Penelo idea, and as well as Vaan being all 'why are you with the bay guy' she can be 'What? He's a bad guy!? He saved my frikkin life!' and everyone is like 'SEPHIROTH DID WHAT!?' and he totally blushes (or not, by in MY mind he will )
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Ink
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Post by Ink on Sept 16, 2007 11:09:26 GMT
Maybe if T said someting like "heh, bad luck, but it's not like I care".
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Post by Sylla on Sept 16, 2007 14:54:01 GMT
... Sephiroth/Penelo.
I really never thought of it that way. fear, you con twist the most innocuous things... but yeah.
Penelo could say something like "Hey, you escaped the light too? I've never seen you before, are you from Rabanastre?" and Sephiroth'd be like "Raba-what? whatever, come with me and you can tell me all about your world and wha't happened to you... or else." ('Cause think about it, Seph was dead before! He didn't see the light!)
Edit: by the way, we need a name for the villaines, don't we? Any suggestions?
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Post by ladyvaltaya on Sept 16, 2007 15:02:11 GMT
Sure, go for it, sounds bad ass!! ^_^
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Post by fearandloathing on Sept 16, 2007 15:03:57 GMT
Lol, I totally didn't plan on that souning pairing/like, but looking back... ahem, crackfic, ahem. It's not my fault, I swear! Well, maybe a little...blame my LJ comm for Balthier/Ashe, the latest post ended up in a discussion about ff12-Alladin. I quote "ashe can be the bottle" (it's been decided she can't be jasmine because Vaan/Ashe makes us Bal/Ashe fans hurl) Next entry - So Balthier is in Ashe. Works for me.I kid you not, it only gets worse from there
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