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Post by Sylla on Nov 15, 2007 17:14:58 GMT
Does that make me no one?! Aww... I'm going to go be emo, now. -goes to corner and looks sad- See what you've made me do?! -puts on fingerless gloves & brushes hair all over one eye- Even though Cait Sith moogle pairings are intrinsically weird and often just plain wrong, I suppose we could make allowances for you- how about "A very very small minority likes them. In fact, it could almost be called a constituency of one." Doesn't that sound so much better?
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Post by snarky on Nov 15, 2007 21:21:51 GMT
Even though Cait Sith moogle pairings are intrinsically weird and often just plain wrong, I suppose we could make allowances for you- how about "A very very small minority likes them. In fact, it could almost be called a constituency of one." Doesn't that sound so much better? There was one I read once that I loved, simply because it was so random and hilarious. Plus, I also once saw a hilarious picture of Cait Sith dating Mog (from FFVI) while Umaru stood in the background, looking jealous. I'm not actually a fan of the pairing in general, though. Nonetheless, yes, that sounds ever so much better. Thank you, Sylla! -comes out of the emo corner-
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Post by Captain Wee on Nov 19, 2007 19:09:04 GMT
I remember reading a Cait/Denzel pairing. Very weird. I forget the name though.
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Post by Kysic on Nov 22, 2007 4:32:32 GMT
I have another commandment.
1: Never write a Final Fantasy VII fanfic without playing the game or researching the storyline in it online. You'll most likely just produce rubbish and/or make yourself look dumb.
------------------------------------------- Sadly, one of the fans of one of my stories had to learn that the hard way. --------------------------------------------
2: Saying "opposites attract" for a pairing isn't enough. The couple has to have at least a few things in common or the pairing would mostly likely not work out. ------------------ It drives me up a wall when people only use this phrase to make a pairing look good. This type of love is nearly impossible to last in real life. The couple has to have a few things in common or they really can't really be a couple. It's EXTREMELY rare for a couple to have nothing in common and stay in love, if not impossible. I don't care if the fanfic is a Yufftine, Aurrikku, or whatever pairings that may fall under this category of love. People aren't magnets, so this phrase is useless unless the two characters at least have a few things in common.
I know I can seriously get attacked by rabid fan girls for this, but I'm just saying the truth. Love just doesn't work that way, at least in my opinion. --------------------------------------------- 3: In cases where Tifa is paired with another character, Cloud would never turn evil over losing Tifa. He might be overprotective over her, be a bit of a jerk/angry (it's normal for men to be angry if someone they love was been taken from them), or he may even make some attempts to win her back, but NEVER turn completely evil unless there's a REALLY good explanation for it. ---------------------------------------- I know this is a dumb commandment, but I actually read a fanfic where Cloud turns evil all because Tifa gets paired with Vincent (maybe she was paired with Rufus or Reno?). It's been ages since I last seen the fanfic and don't know if it's still there. Remember, I said Cloud MIGHT do some things. I'm just saying it's okay if Cloud gets upset about Tifa being with someone else. It's normal. I'm just saying Cloud wouldn't turn evil unless there's a good explanation.
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Post by allocin on Nov 22, 2007 4:45:40 GMT
Hmm. I thought of one that might not be too popular, but it drives me up the wall.
Commandment: Stop with the excessive euphemisms and epithets! If I see twenty cases of "the blond man" or "glowing blue orbs" in another 500-word story I am going to ... hit the back button! Bah. I'm all for variation in sentence structure, but sometimes you should just use "Cloud" and "eyes", respectively.
~Ally~
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Post by T. Costa on Nov 22, 2007 20:06:30 GMT
It drives me up a wall when people only use this phrase to make a pairing look good. This type of love is nearly impossible to last in real life. The couple has to have a few things in common or they really can't really be a couple. It's EXTREMELY rare for a couple to have nothing in common and stay in love, if not impossible. I don't care if the fanfic is a Yufftine, Aurrikku, or whatever pairings that may fall under this category of love. People aren't magnets, so this phrase is useless unless the two characters at least have a few things in common. I know I can seriously get attacked by rabid fan girls for this, but I'm just saying the truth. Love just doesn't work that way, at least in my opinion. I'm not a "rabid fangirl," (I'll read any pairing except for Valenwind) but I am going to respectfully disagree. Love is not predictable in nature, no matter what the pairing. I say this because my husband and I, who have been together going on four years, are complete polar opposites and we work out fine. I think there needs to be MORE explanation for oddball pairings, more detail into how they fall for each other (be it Yuffentine, Aurrikku, or any other odd pairing), because it would most likely be a gradual process, but as someone who is IN a Yuffentine-esque relationship (even down to a significant age difference between the two of us), it can, and does, work out - quite often. ~Tasha
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Post by Alma on Nov 25, 2007 9:14:12 GMT
Commandment: Stop with the excessive euphemisms and epithets! If I see twenty cases of "the blond man" or "glowing blue orbs" in another 500-word story I am going to ... hit the back button! Bah. I'm all for variation in sentence structure, but sometimes you should just use "Cloud" and "eyes", respectively. Hahaha! Aww, I couldn't agree more. And I am so very guilty of doing that. Damn those.... those... luminescent Mako-filled pools of sapphire! Hehe.
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Post by Sai on Nov 27, 2007 14:19:39 GMT
I do those too! (But at least I have the excuse that it's 55k long, not 500) It's a bad habit because I'm bad with overusing a name.
I don't like it, but it's better than seeing the same name up a gazillion times.
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Post by Sylla on Nov 27, 2007 20:08:40 GMT
There's nothing bad per se about using euphamisms, epithets, etc. when you have a huge-ass story; it's when they appear more than the actual term that it begins to get annoying.
That said, there is no excuse for using the word 'orbs' instead of eyes. None at all.
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Post by Sai on Nov 28, 2007 6:05:45 GMT
Well, I wouldn't lower myself to that.
Orbs? I mean, are we talking about bright materia balls or something? I want to see eyes, you know, the shape (Like almond or whatnot) rather than orbs. YOU CAN"T SEE THE WHOLE THING!
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Post by T. Costa on Nov 28, 2007 9:42:59 GMT
The only time I've heard the phrase "mako-infused orbs" or anything similar that made sense was when it was a fic that took place in the dark. However, I do use "the blond man" or "the brunette" or "the gunslinger" or "the younger man" quite often in my writing, about equal to as much as I use the name of the person I'm referring to, because I dislike overuse of any word. It's one of my pet peeves. Once or twice per paragraph for names is about my limit, unless it's a really involved paragraph. I'll usually break it up like this:
"But Vincent!" Cloud exclaimed. Vincent eyed the younger man wearily.
(Note that that is something I just thought of off the top of my head, not something I've actually written)
I just dislike hearing the same word over and over in my head, so I try to think up other, discriptive things to call people. Cloud can be "the blond" or "the delivery boy" or anything like that, or when used with someone older or younger, I can use that "younger man" thing. I try not to use the same euphemisms over and over.
~Tasha
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Post by piedflycatcher on Nov 28, 2007 10:46:05 GMT
However, I do use "the blond man" or "the brunette" or "the gunslinger" or "the younger man" quite often in my writing, about equal to as much as I use the name of the person I'm referring to, because I dislike overuse of any word. It's more difficult to overuse names than other words. Like the word 'said', names tend to be fairly invisible and the reader passes over them. Epithets, on the other hand, are very noticeable. So it's far easier to overuse them. I don't think using them equally is a good balance. I prefer to use names most of the time and only throw in the occasional epithet where appropriate. In the example you gave, it would be easier just to write 'him' instead of 'the younger man'.
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Post by unwinding fantasy on Nov 28, 2007 12:41:12 GMT
^ Pied's slapped me on the wrists for using "orbs" before. x.x
I used to be guilty of over-using euphemisms too. It's so hard not to though. I had to consciously train myself to cut down on them. Nowadays when I finish writing something I'm doubly strict and skim through it, deleting unnecessary "the brunette"'s etc. left, right and center.
One pet hate of mine (not specific to FFVII fandom) is the dreaded comma splice. I can't stand seeing a sentence where someone's gone punctuation-crazy, adding random semi-colons after every second word. There're so many instances where the comma is unnecessary. Abusing it only diminishes its impact.
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Post by T. Costa on Nov 28, 2007 13:19:40 GMT
It's more difficult to overuse names than other words. Like the word 'said', names tend to be fairly invisible and the reader passes over them. Epithets, on the other hand, are very noticeable. So it's far easier to overuse them. I don't think using them equally is a good balance. I prefer to use names most of the time and only throw in the occasional epithet where appropriate. In the example you gave, it would be easier just to write 'him' instead of 'the younger man'. I suppose it's a matter of opinion. I don't just skim when I'm reading, which a lot of people apparently do. I read every. Single. Word. So overuse gets to me, a lot. I don't excessively use the same euphemism, and I feel that's fine. And I'm afraid it's something we're going to have to disagree on, because I prefer it that way, and I doubt anything is going to change my mind on it. Also, on the comma thing, Aqua Phoenix - that's a very journalistic approach. I used to use a lot of commas until I got into journalism. When the editor of the newspaper I worked at explained how not to use commas, it was a very life-changing moment as far as writing goes. ~Tasha
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Post by piedflycatcher on Nov 28, 2007 15:53:53 GMT
I read every. Single. Word. So overuse gets to me, a lot. Really? Does that include words like 'and', 'the', 'she' and 'he'? That must get really annoying. I guess we are going to have to disagree then, because I think that constantly changing epithets is even worse. XD When you have 'the blond', 'the ex-SOLDIER', 'the mercenary', and 'the younger man' it sounds like you've got a whole crowd of characters jostling for space.
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